It appears to me impossible to suppose that the House will consider
me presumptuous in wishing to be heard for a short time on this question,
especially after the distinct manner in which I have been alluded to in
the course of the debate. If I had no other excuse, that would be sufficient;
but I do not want it; I have another and a better -- the question is one
in the highest degree interesting to the people of Ireland. It is, whether
we mean to do justice to that country -- whether we mean to continue the
injustice which has been already done to it, or to hold out the hope that
it will be treated in the same manner as England and Scotland. That is
the question. We know what "lip service" is; we do not want that.
There are some men who will even declare that they are willing to refuse
justice to Ireland; while there are others who, though they are ashamed
to say so, are ready to consummate the iniquity, and they do so.
England never did do justice to Ireland -- she never did. What we
have got of it we have extorted from men opposed to us on principle --
against which principle they have made us such concessions as we have obtained
from them. The right honorable baronet opposite [Sir Robert Peel] says
he does not distinctly understand what is meant by a principle. I believe
him. He advocated religious exclusion on religious motives; he yielded
that point at length, when we were strong enough to make it prudent for
him to do so.
Here am I calling for justice to Ireland; but there is a coalition
tonight -- not a base unprincipled one -- God forbid! -- it is an extremely
natural one; I mean that between the right honorable baronet and the noble
lord the member for North Lancashire [Lord Stanley]. It is a natural coalition,
and it is impromptu; for the noble lord informs us he had not even a notion
of taking the part he has until the moment at which he seated himself where
he now is. I know his candor; he told us it was a sudden inspiration which
induced him to take part against Ireland. I believe it with the most potent
faith, because I know that he requires no preparation for voting against
the interests of the Irish people. [Groans.] I thank you for that groan
-- it is just of a piece with the rest. I regret much that I have been
thrown upon arguing this particular question, because I should have liked
to have dwelt upon the speech which has been so graciously delivered from
the throne today -- to have gone into its details, and to have pointed
out the many great and beneficial alterations and amendments in our existing
institutions which it hints at and recommends to the House. The speech
of last year was full of reforms in words, and in words only; but this
speech contains the great leading features of all the salutary reforms
the country wants; and if they are worked out fairly and honestly in detail,
I am convinced the country will require no further amelioration of its
institutions, and that it will become the envy and admiration of the world.
I, therefore, hail the speech with great satisfaction.
It has been observed that the object of a king's speech is to say
as little in as many words as possible; but this speech contains more things
than words -- it contains those great principles which, adopted in practice,
will be most salutary not only to the British Empire, but to the world.
When speaking of our foreign policy, it rejoices in the cooperation between
France and this country; but it abstains from conveying any ministerial
approbation of alterations in the domestic laws of that country which aim
at the suppression of public liberty, and the checking of public discussion,
such as call for individual reprobation, and which I reprobate as much
as any one. I should like to know whether there is a statesman in the country
who will get up in this House and avow his approval of such proceedings
on the part of the French government. I know it may be done out of the
House amid the cheers of an assembly of friends; but the government have,
in my opinion, wisely abstained from reprobating such measures in the speech,
while they have properly exulted in such a union of the two countries as
will contribute to the national independence and the public liberty of
Europe.
Years are coming over me, but my heart is as young and as ready as
ever in the service of my country, of which I glory in being the pensionary
and the hired advocate. I stand in a situation in which no man ever stood
yet -- the faithful friend of my country -- its servant -- its stave, if
you will -- I speak its sentiments by turns to you and to itself. I require
no £20,000,000 on behalf of Ireland -- I ask you only for justice:
will you -- can you -- I will not say dare you refuse, because that would
make you turn the other way. I implore you, as English gentlemen, to take
this matter into consideration now, because you never had such an opportunity
of conciliating. Experience makes fools wise; you are not fools, but you
have yet to be convinced. I cannot forget the year 1825. We begged then
as we would for a beggar's boon; we asked for emancipation by all that
is sacred amongst us, and I remember how my speech and person were treated
on the Treasury Bench, when I had no opportunity of reply. The other place
turned us out and sent us back again, but we showed that justice was with
us. The noble lord says the other place has declared the same sentiments
with himself; but he could not use a worse argument. It is the very reason
why we should acquiesce in the measure of reform, for we have no hope from
that House -- all our hopes are centered in this; and I am the living representative
of those hopes. I have no other reason for adhering to the ministry than
because they, the chosen representatives of the people of England, are
anxiously determined to give the same measure of reform to Ireland as that
which England has received. I have not fatigued myself, but the House,
in coming forward upon this occasion. I may be laughed and sneered at by
those who talk of my power; but what has created it but the injustice that
has been done in Ireland? That is the end and the means of the magic, if
you please -- the groundwork of my influence in Ireland. If you refuse
justice to that country, it is a melancholy consideration to me to think
that you are adding substantially to that power and influence, while you
are wounding my country to its very heart's core; weakening that throne,
the monarch who sits upon which, you say you respect; severing that union
which, you say, is bound together by the tightest links, and withholding
that justice from Ireland which she will not cease to seek till it is obtained;
every man must admit that the course I am taking is the legitimate and
proper course -- I defy any man to say it is not. Condemn me elsewhere
as much as you please, but this you must admit. You may taunt the ministry
with having coalesced me, you may raise the vulgar cry of "Irishman
and Papist" against me, you may send out men called ministers of God
to slander and calumniate me; they may assume whatever garb they please,
but the question comes into this narrow compass. I demand, I respectfully
insist: on equal justice for Ireland, on the same principle by which it
has been administered to Scotland and England. I will not take less. Refuse
me that if you can.
Daniel O'Connell - February 4, 1836